Subject: failure to file 83b?
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005
From: Andy
Hi Mike,
I work for a startup software company in Mountain View and have
ISOs granted on 11/10/03 and 11/1/04. On 11/16/04, I exercised
options from each grant that were un-vested. I think I forgot to
file an 83(b) election. Is there a way to find out?
If I didn't make the election, which of these statements that you
made would apply?
- "If the election is not made the preference isn't measured
until the restrictions lapse or the stock becomes vested", or
- "The IRS has said in regulations issued during August, 2004
that for regular tax reporting, Section 83 doesn't apply when an
ISO is exercised, so the Section 83(b) election is not effective
for regular tax purposes. The holding period starts on the date
of exercise for avoiding regular tax ordinary income at
disposition under the ISO rules."
In both exercises, the market value and the exercise price were
the same, so there should be no current taxable event. My
question is, on what date does any sale of these shares become
long-term gain? Did my failure to file an 83(b) election change
that date?
Thank You,
Andy
Answer
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005
Hello Andy,
If you don't recall filing an 83(b) election, you probably
didn't, because you have to sign the form before it is mailed to
the IRS. Check with your plan administrator to see if the
company helped you with this.
Both of the statements you quoted are correct, the first for AMT
reporting, the second for regular tax reporting.
If you hold the stock more than two years after the grant dates
and more than two years after the exercise dates, you will
qualify for long-term capital gains reporting for regular tax
purposes.
Since you didn't make the election, you should report ordinary
income for the excess of the fair market value of the stock on
the vesting date over the option price as the shares vest on your
AMT schedule. The holding period for the shares on the AMT
schedule will be based on the dates the shares vest. You have a
mess on your hands.
Good luck!
Mike Gray
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